by Rod Williams, July 22, 2025- Did you know that when women wear red shoes, that is a signal to other women that they drink the blood of children? That is what many in the Q-Anon world believe. In this episode of the Ezra Klein Show, guest Will Sommner shares that bit of information and more on the weird world of Q-Anon as part of his discussion on why segments of Trump world are so invested in the Epstein conspiracy and why they will not just fall in line with Trump's desire to be done with the whole thing.
Esra Klein is by far my favorite liberal podcaster or broadcaster. He is not so doctrinaire liberal that he has closed his mind. Unlike many on the left, he is not constantly angry and does not display that self-righteous condescending superiority so often displayed by personalities on the left. He is thoughtful and inquisitive and is a good interviewer. I don't watch every episode, but do catch his podcast from time to time.
In this episode, he interviews Will Sommer, discussing the Epstein controversy and why it is causing such division within MAGA world. Sommer is a regular on the Bulwark YouTube channel with I watch regularlly. I have never heard Sommer express specifically his political philosophy but from what I have gathered, I assume he is a pre-Trump normie Republican or a former Republican. Sommers is an expert on conspiracy theories and the far right and is the author of “Trust the Plan: The Rise of QAnon and the Conspiracy That Unhinged America.”
This was a fascinating program and I highly recommend it.
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